(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[U.S. Open, Round 2, Board 1, Chen, Zhaonian v. Kim, Myung-Wan]PW[Chen, Zhaonian]PB[Kim, Myung-Wan]WR[7d]BR[8p]DT[2009-08-03]EV[U.S. Open]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Max Peterson]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Yes
USGO1 [-\]: Sorry everyone, have to close this game and reopen to fix it.
USGO1 [-\]: NM, Fixed.
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[dc]C[HandA [1k\]: w00t
mcw85 [7k\]: Go Zchen!
LedZepplin [2d\]: please tell me he's going to do mini chinese!
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome everyone. Enjoy the game.
Phear [-\]: oh this will be a tough game for zchen :S
HandA [1k\]: zchen is not even 9d...
Hanne [3k\]: is there a webcam?
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks for relaying, USGO.
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Gresil [-\]: oh, these broadcasts are perfectly timed. i just got home from work.
USGO1 [-\]: All amateurs are listed as 7d at most.
siulongbao [7k\]: 8p ..
siulongbao [7k\]: O_o
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;W[qp]C[siulongbao [7k\]: can i see the player card for the 8p?
]
;B[cn]C[USGO1 [-\]: One moment...
siulongbao [7k\]: thank you =\]
LedZepplin [2d\]: miniiiii chineseeeee
USGO1 [-\]: Kim Myung Wan (born 1978) is an 8d Korean professional who has taken up residence in the Los Angeles area (as of 2008). In 2008, he won the US Open with a score of 6-0, defeating Jiang Mingjiu by 1.5 points in the final round. As of August 2008, he was second in the AGA ratings behind Feng Yun. At the 2008 Congress, he also played a historic demonstration game against MoGo running on an 800 processor supercomputer. With a 9 stone handicap, MoGo won by 1.5 points. More at http://senseis.xmp.net/?KimMyungwan
dresu [-\]: wow, tartrate again on kgs
Ras [18k\]: ugh Kim WON vs MoGo after that! with 7 handi!
Emperor40k [3d\]: darkmage vs tartrate
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;W[de]C[Ras [18k\]: they never mention that...
LedZepplin [2d\]: :(
LedZepplin [2d\]: B4
LedZepplin [2d\]: :D
]
;B[fq]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Speculation.
HandA [1k\]: tartrate is?
Ras [18k\]: black
Ras [18k\]: invincible
Kyuss [1k\]: i thought hoshi was supposed to be more stable than komoku
HandA [1k\]: Omg
Karcusrd [7k\]: so nice the open
Emperor40k [3d\]: hoshi is more flexible, not stable
siulongbao [7k\]: wow..
MagCheung [4k\]: Are you sure he is tartrate ?
LedZepplin [2d\]: D6
siulongbao [7k\]: why is he vsing handicaps ?
Ras [18k\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: No, it is speculation.
Ras [18k\]: no, its fact
siulongbao [7k\]: wats MoGo ?
]
;W[dn]
;B[dm]
;W[en]C[YeongHaKo [?\]: best go bot
Deva [1d\]: artificial go player
LedZepplin [2d\]: i knew!
TeeSushi [3d\]: MoGo a montecarlo go bot
LedZepplin [2d\]: :D
mcw85 [7k\]: If you say so...
LedZepplin [2d\]: C4
Erimies [4d\]: kim won his last game?
freddygo [5k\]: does anyone know how many boards are shown on live kgs at the us open?
siulongbao [7k\]: is it rly strong ?
evanj [2d\]: just this one today freddy it appears
AoX [11k\]: mogo is the futur end of go online as we know, it's gonna be like chess one day where it'll be hard to play a honnest game and not one vs a computer >>
Karcusrd [7k\]: it there live feeds
freddygo [5k\]: yesterday, i saw only parts of 6...
evanj [2d\]: erimies: yes
freddygo [5k\]: no, there are 4 boards going on right now
Erimies [4d\]: kk
evanj [2d\]: oh, live on kgs you mean, not video
evanj [2d\]: nm
freddygo [5k\]: yes
Karcusrd [7k\]: video of the live congress
Ras [18k\]: http://www.godiscussions.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8148&highlight=tartrate
Ras [18k\]: proof kim is tartrate
Kyuss [1k\]: comeon
Kyuss [1k\]: speculation
USGO1 [-\]: Less detail on Zhaonian Chen. From Sensei's:
msheroher [3k\]: this is a interesting game
USGO1 [-\]: Zhaonian Chen, also known as Michael, plays as DarkMage on KGS. Michael, one of the strongest players in the American Go Association rated 8.4 as of 1 October 2007.  Michael won the 2006 North American Ing Cup, competed in the 2007 North American Ing Masters Championship as well as the 2006 North American Masters Tournament.
]
;B[co]
;W[ep]C[tellone [4k\]: isn't the camera focused on the guy with the computor
Ras [18k\]: Zhaonian Chen is also zchen?
LedZepplin [2d\]: yes
TeeSushi [3d\]: e4 is bad i think
Kyuss [1k\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: I didn't set it up. I'll see is someone can fix.
LedZepplin [2d\]: C4
]
;B[em]C[yingngai [2d\]: exactly
Ras [18k\]: that makes these my 2 favorite players...
Ras [18k\]: this is going to be a bloodbath
outstander [2k\]: kim is tartrate???
Ras [18k\]: yes
Erimies [4d\]: maybe who knows
sweety [-\]: no.. -_-
golgo13 [?\]: whenever this joseki is mentioned, it says it's for a handicap game....
Ras [18k\]: i just showed u all the proof
USGO1 [-\]: Misclick on earlier move. Correcting...
]
;AE[fq]AB[gq]C[jjllb [12k?\]: Why the time don't move?
]
;W[gp]
;B[hp]C[Ras [18k\]: because theyre playing in real life and it is being relayed
Fredrik [-\]: is jie li participating?
jjllb [12k?\]: :o okay
jjllb [12k?\]: thx
mcw85 [7k\]: Nobody has ever owned up to being tartrate.
Kyuss [1k\]: fredrik, are you at EGC now?
outstander [2k\]: x-cut
Fredrik [-\]: no
LedZepplin [2d\]: cut its not good
Ras [18k\]: dude, i gave u the proof, what more do u want? written confession?
freddygo [5k\]: watching 4 boards at same time is too hard
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the American Go E-Journal’s LIVE coverage of the 2009 U.S. Go Congress!  Today we’re bringing you the top boards at the U.S. Open, the Congress 6-round main tournament.  
USGO1 [-\]: Check the AGA website at www.usgo.org for Congress and tournament updates, including photos and more.
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;W[fq]
;B[go]
;W[fp]
;B[fm]C[USGO1 [-\]: Today’s EJ Team: Chris Garlock, Managing Editor; John Pinkerton, Recording Team Coordinator; Akane Negishi, KGS Admin; Steve Colburn, IT support; Max Peterson, Board 1; Matt Luce, Board 2; Solomon Smilack, Board 3; Daniel Poore, Board 4; Chris Burg, Relief. 
evanj [2d\]: oh, f3 to g3 changes everything :)
XY0908 [-\]: Hello Matt.
]
;W[ci]C[CrusaderGo [-\]: 8p O_o
Hanne [3k\]: 8p pretty tough
CrusaderGo [-\]: may be 8d?
che [-\]: B should be 9p I guess
evanj [2d\]: no, 8p
che [-\]: too strong for 8p
XY0908 [-\]: Just to let you know that on today's E-Journal, the clickable link to pairings sheet doesn't work.
justatry [1k\]: 8p are strong you know
Onmyoji [2d\]: w is zchen?
mcw85 [7k\]: Pshaw, 8p... my grandma was 8p.
evanj [2d\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
Girls [6d\]: where are they playing ?
mcw85 [7k\]: US Go Congress
XY0908 [-\]: USGC, Fairfax, VA.
Girls [6d\]: where is it ???!!!!
Karcusrd [7k\]: we should get their audio
Girls [6d\]: what is the time now in there?
evanj [2d\]: you can, karcusrd
]
;B[gr]
;W[fr]C[evanj [2d\]: girls: 9:32 AM
XY0908 [-\]: 9:32 am.
USGO1 [-\]: Link to pairings for rnd 2:
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.gocongress.org/pairs-r2.html
outstander [2k\]: c'mon zchen!!!
Karcusrd [7k\]: ugly blank komi 
mcw85 [7k\]: I wish I were there so I can write on a big sign "Go Zchen!" and stand behind Mr. Kim with it.
justatry [1k\]: .
Karcusrd [7k\]: with rainbow afro also
ilithios [17k\]: You have something against Mr. Kim?
Ras [18k\]: zchen 3:16!
mcw85 [7k\]: Nope.
XY0908 [-\]: Javaness is playing at table 69.
]
;B[cg]C[dimitar [2k\]: 6-9 is 3
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol java went to us congress instead of euro?
justatry [1k\]: very javaness like
Erimies [4d\]: what javaness in real life rank?
dimitar [2k\]: i mean -3
mcw85 [7k\]: I always thought he was french...
XY0908 [-\]: 2-3 dan, Eri.
Karcusrd [7k\]: XY what are the #s next to the names
Erimies [4d\]: egf?
XY0908 [-\]: He said he will be at next year's EGC.
clayton [-\]: he's irish
Erimies [4d\]: mhm
Erimies [4d\]: ;d
mcw85 [7k\]: Irish, eh?
XY0908 [-\]: What's the purpose of playing at G2?
]
;W[bl]C[Meepy [-\]: double sente
Adante [1k\]: an 8p participating? hm, sounds slightly unfair
evanj [2d\]: double sente, thickness, potential attack from corner to reduce eye space
Hanne [3k\]: does w have a chance?
Erimies [4d\]: yea
Erimies [4d\]: ofc
veteran [1d\]: that was a funny game record
TeeSushi [3d\]: g2 thicknesse?
Erimies [4d\]: but really small one
Lakotnik [4k\]: what does double sente mean?
XY0908 [-\]: What is ofc?
mcw85 [7k\]: Sente for both.
Erimies [4d\]: of course
mcw85 [7k\]: Ofc means of course.
veteran [1d\]: f3 was black and it moved to g3!
Erimies [4d\]: too lazy to type
Lakotnik [4k\]: what do you mean sente for both, mcw85?
BenSenTen [?\]: b is tartaric acid + sodium hydroxide
mcw85 [7k\]: Your laziness made you do 3x the work in the end.
dimitar [2k\]: what is the opposite to tripple ko?
mcw85 [7k\]: We don't know, Ben.
Ras [18k\]: veteran, USGO1 placed it wrong and corrected it
Lakotnik [4k\]: one third of ko
USGO1 [-\]: Error on board. Fixing now.
]
;B[cl]
;W[bm]C[evanj [2d\]: lako: g2 was a sente move for black and it would have been a sente move for white
BenSenTen [?\]: that would hv tartrate as result
]
;AE[go][hp][gq][gr]AW[cp][eq][er]AB[fo][gp][fq][fr]C[dimitar [2k\]: thats not very zen lakotnik
Lakotnik [4k\]: oh, tnx evanj
XY0908 [-\]: I like the white's spirit.
Neurotrash [9k\]: whow how do they make a mistake like this
Onmyoji [2d\]: omg wat happen
evanj [2d\]: oh geez
Lakotnik [4k\]: i ll try to improve my zen, dimitar
Sebastian [2k\]: is there a live stream?
Neurotrash [9k\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Karcusrd [7k\]: who going backward
USGO1 [-\]: Apologies for confusion.
justatry [1k\]: usgo 1 is drunk
]
;B[bk]C[justatry [1k\]: :p
mcw85 [7k\]: Board shifted, haha.
Sebastian [2k\]: ^^
Onmyoji [2d\]: i will never forgive you
Luhmann: i like adimins spirit
Neurotrash [9k\]: maybe just start over again... you might have missed something!
mcw85 [7k\]: Black scared white so much, he shrunk.
evanj [2d\]: any way to quickly replay the sequence from the beginning, or something?
USGO1 [-\]: Recorder short on sleep. 
BenSenTen [?\]: c7?
XY0908 [-\]: ;-)
TeeSushi [3d\]: can you zoom the cam a little on the board=
TeeSushi [3d\]: ?
Ras [18k\]: Better to be recording on short sleep than playing vs either of these 2
Luhmann: c7 looks so wrong
USGO1 [-\]: Can't control camera.
Karcusrd [7k\]: jnow i must go to another game i confused i saw stones move  in opposite
evanj [2d\]: c7 no good
jonah [7k\]: i cant believe it: using "undo" in an official game!
]
;W[dg]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: then you need a better one ;)
evanj [2d\]: karcus: didn't you know? once you're 7d you're allowed to move stones once they're on the board
mcw85 [7k\]: Camera has mind of its own!
BenSenTen [?\]: w would be 8p? if he win this game
Karcusrd [7k\]: ok 
Erimies [4d\]: no 9p
justatry [1k\]: no bensenten
justatry [1k\]: :)
BenSenTen [?\]: 9p?
Erimies [4d\]: if he beats 8p its 9p
Karcusrd [7k\]: they get to go back in time
justatry [1k\]: no 7d
jonah [7k\]: or 10p
Onmyoji [2d\]: w will be pro if he wins
TeeSushi [3d\]: you use ing rules at us go congress?
]
;B[cj]C[BenSenTen [?\]: if he beat 8p n 9p, he would be 10p?
evanj [2d\]: no, 17p
Luhmann: pi
xedover [5k?\]: AGA rules for the US Open, Ing rules for the Ing Masters tourney
BenSenTen [?\]: only at semi rengo, he vs 8p n 9p at same time
Karcusrd [7k\]: i want to hear this game
evanj [2d\]: go to eurogotv, karcus
evanj [2d\]: live video w/ sound
Luhmann: *click*
harlej9 [2k\]: why when I try to read back the bottom group is moving?  :))
mcw85 [7k\]: Will there be another round of the Masters tournament tonight?
hehe2009 [1d?\]: seems w is a bit tricked
TeeSushi [3d\]: maybe?c17 
]
;W[cc]C[BenSenTen [?\]: i don't know w would give 2 stone to b so early
Luhmann: id c17
Karcusrd [7k\]: no live audio even one of you kibitzies would be ok to live audio
BenSenTen [?\]: why
evanj [2d\]: dude in camo shorts, you're on tv
takagawa13 [3k\]: kim win yesterday???
Luhmann: id love to see teesushi on his webcam now!
evanj [2d\]: yes takagawa, and easily too
Karcusrd [7k\]:  Bplaying strong and safe
BenSenTen [?\]: i don't think w can win this game, he doesn't has any spirit at all
Karcusrd [7k\]: but may not last
evanj [2d\]: well, w did play b7
USGO1 [-\]: North American Ing Masters starting at 6:30 pm tonight
USGO1 [-\]: By agreement of players.
BenSenTen [?\]: b7 obviously misclick
takagawa13 [3k\]: is kim korean??
TeeSushi [3d\]: if i tell white after the game i suggested this move, he will agree it was a bad one :P
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks.
evanj [2d\]: he's either korean, finnish or female
]
;B[cd]C[Karcusrd [7k\]: lol
]
;W[dd]C[harlej9 [2k\]: can b cut at c16?
harlej9 [2k\]: heheh
DuiBuQi: black is playing like he knows what he is doing
]
;B[bc]C[evanj [2d\]: has to, harlej
Luhmann: w too
]
;W[cb]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Those are not all mutually exclusive.He could be an ethnic korean born in Finland and female.
]
;B[bb]C[justatry [1k\]: i really don't like w here :(
Karcusrd [7k\]: cuation B may sudenly apear thick
evanj [2d\]: true mcw
evanj [2d\]: good point
Sebastian [2k\]: could you zoom in a lil dont see the board too well
evanj [2d\]: sebastian: he doens't control the camera
Ras [18k\]: no zoom
USGO1 [-\]: Unable to affect camera. 
Sebastian [2k\]: :( ok
Luhmann: b16
basilic [9k\]: qui parle français ?
Luhmann: and close b in
Sebastian [2k\]: but better than no cam ^^^
evanj [2d\]: moi
USGO1 [-\]: Recorder given specific instructions not to touch cam.
Vibration [7k\]: moi mai ici on parle anglais
Luhmann: b16 is simple and good enough
basilic [9k\]: att
justatry [1k\]: tout le monde
basilic [9k\]: deux seconde
TeeSushi [3d\]: usgo you should rename the game to board 1 ... camera uncontrolabe ;)
mcw85 [7k\]: I have a great view of the board on KGS. You should have a ook there.
LedZepplin [2d\]: how do u see it in camera
LedZepplin [2d\]: what means tv?
harlej9 [2k\]: I really thought that b wouldplay c15 instead of b17
Deva [1d\]: they should stream multiple viewpoints, would be nice :-)
LedZepplin [2d\]: there is go channel in TV?
Luhmann: b16 is nice result fot w
basilic [9k\]: si il jouait en b16  noir aurait manger
evanj [2d\]: they should ahve an overhead cam
LedZepplin [2d\]: please answer me :O
basilic [9k\]: pui il déscend en c15 
xedover [5k?\]: LedZ... http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Karcusrd [7k\]: we want to see the crowd
Luhmann: c15 is more risky
basilic [9k\]: noir connecte et blac a un territoire
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
cashcow [4d\]: WOW !
cashcow [4d\]: 9P!
cashcow [4d\]: 8p!
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh thank you 
Luhmann: b16 first is safe
Wizze [1d\]: 8p =)
cashcow [4d\]: OWWOWOW
Deva [1d\]: right, overhead cam is way better to see the board, but what for, we have one here :-)
harlej9 [2k\]: thx
]
;W[bd]
;B[ce]C[Luhmann: o
]
;W[cf]C[Luhmann: told ya
]
;B[be]C[Luhmann: :P
]
;W[bf]
;B[ad]C[evanj [2d\]: true, deva! and it's amazing how fast they place the stones, you can barely see their hands
Luhmann: e17
dimitar [2k\]: b+res
Luhmann: lol
cashcow [4d\]: it's so early in the game and W is totally pawned
harlej9 [2k\]: and EuroGoTV himself :)
]
;W[ec]
;B[db]C[Luhmann: corner is nice result for w
]
;W[eb]
;B[ca]C[cashcow [4d\]: it's too expensive
Hanne [3k\]: lol i can see there hands
Luhmann: b 7 points
Sebastian [2k\]: position equal to me
BenSenTen [?\]: i fully agree with dimitar, b + res
cashcow [4d\]: kim wearing a ring
evanj [2d\]: w is looking very fidgety and uncomfortable 
cashcow [4d\]: it's the Ring!
basilic [9k\]: sa veut dire koi 8P
Ras [18k\]: black always sits like he has to pee
TeeSushi [3d\]: one ring to rule them all
Deva [1d\]: he is married?
evanj [2d\]: ras :D
Luhmann: b is tartrate?
Vibration [7k\]: 8p c ceu ki invente les joseki
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
Karcusrd [7k\]: they are resting their wrists
Ras [18k\]: YES
cashcow [4d\]: sorry i was pulling ur legs
DuiBuQi: Kim Myuang used to live a few kilometers from me -_-
Deva [1d\]: one ring to rule him forever
AoX [11k\]: yes
Vibration [7k\]: c d fou!
basilic [9k\]: ah ok
Luhmann: can wee all see him finally??
DuiBuQi: Then he moved bleh
kukulis4 [2d\]: black already has some cach
Ras [18k\]: yes luhmann
kukulis4 [2d\]: cash
basilic [9k\]: ses de pros ?
Luhmann: he is or he is not?
dimitar [2k\]: wi
Ras [18k\]: he is.
dimitar [2k\]: oui
mcw85 [7k\]: Stop spreading rumors.
xedover [5k?\]: some people think so, others disagree
Ras [18k\]: i have proof, and i have given it to u
xedover [5k?\]: its not proof
Bheeshma [4k\]: black is tartrate!
Ras [18k\]: if u chose not to believe it, YOU dont spread rumors
mcw85 [7k\]: Not proof. speculation.
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;W[jd]C[Luhmann: dinerchstein said right?
Bheeshma [4k\]: breakfast says so
Bheeshma [4k\]: yeah
basilic [9k\]: et la il font koi ?
Luhmann: thought he was 2p that time
basilic [9k\]: ses une partie
mcw85 [7k\]: Dinerchtein doesn't know, he guessed/
dimitar [2k\]: le pros sur la table
basilic [9k\]: ok
evanj [2d\]: enough with the tartrate stuff
mcw85 [7k\]: I agree, it is so silly.
Bheeshma [4k\]: :)
evanj [2d\]: WHOA
evanj [2d\]: earthquake
Sebastian [2k\]: cam down 
dimitar [2k\]: erm problem with camera
Luhmann: but if he is tartrate
Luhmann: its great^
evanj [2d\]: nice shoes, matt
mcw85 [7k\]: That camera does have a mind of its own.
BenSenTen [?\]: tartrate is nothing if u put it inside water
BenSenTen [?\]: just dissolve
Sebastian [2k\]: its a lil nearer to the board lol
Luhmann: you are to young to remember the good old KGS times evanj^^
dimitar [2k\]: hmm
evanj [2d\]: yes i am luhmann
harlej9 [2k\]: can u light the candle, pl? 
Karcusrd [7k\]: threaten K breakfast ceral
harlej9 [2k\]: !
cashcow [4d\]: m17 
randomnes [5k\]: btw who is tartrate?
XY0908 [-\]: ...
mcw85 [7k\]: -_-
randomnes [5k\]: >_>
]
;B[lc]
;W[od]C[Bheeshma [4k\]: KGS's sai
]
;B[le]C[cashcow [4d\]: m15 
randomnes [5k\]: oh
randomnes [5k\]: did he
cashcow [4d\]: q14 
LedZepplin [2d\]: eurogo
XY0908 [-\]: Can we talk about the game, not tartrate for a while please?
LedZepplin [2d\]: usgo*
inoue007 [?\]: eurotv... please, put the cam correctly
randomnes [5k\]: ok
dimitar [2k\]: tartrate is not zen
LedZepplin [2d\]: i cant see the boards
Vibration [7k\]: lol m15 o so hard to find
LedZepplin [2d\]: only u and the computer
mcw85 [7k\]: Eurogo is in europe, this is usgo.
BenSenTen [?\]: pls don't relate sai to any players of kgs
inoue007 [?\]: ha ha ha.usgo. please
cashcow [4d\]: alright, if ur name is Lee, or Kim, or Cho, u have to play blindfolded next time
USGO1 [-\]: Camera fell. Looking for someone to see to it.
Sebastian [2k\]: usgo may be idle
LedZepplin [2d\]: usgo
inoue007 [?\]: the webcam...
harlej9 [2k\]: usogo we all ve seen ur brand new acer
LedZepplin [2d\]: please correct the camra :\\
dimitar [2k\]: give camera  a little push
Karcusrd [7k\]: lets gravitate toward the K group
cashcow [4d\]: or wear a sandbag on ur heard
cashcow [4d\]: *head
saekla [18k\]: Camera?
evanj [2d\]: awesome
harlej9 [2k\]: the board pls
dimitar [2k\]: pi cubed
arlefferts [8k\]: poop
mcw85 [7k\]: trippy
cashcow [4d\]: r13 !
evanj [2d\]: wheeeeeeee
XY0908 [-\]: Is B ahead already?
LedZepplin [2d\]: can you zoom in?.
arlefferts [8k\]: my little brother, sorry
BenSenTen [?\]: n16
inoue007 [?\]: much better
mcw85 [7k\]: Can you shade the lens again?
evanj [2d\]: oh i see thomas hsiang back there
]
;W[of]C[saekla [18k\]: What is this webcam you speak of?
dimitar [2k\]: can you change the players to leechang ho and matt damon?
mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
harlej9 [2k\]: he is lacky, he doesnt see comments at all
evanj [2d\]: which is currently showing an awesome close-up of some guy's palm
tonehog: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
]
;B[qf]C[BenSenTen [?\]: leechangho is not as good as years ago
cashcow [4d\]: r17 
dimitar [2k\]: how good is he?
mcw85 [7k\]: I read his life line, should I tell him?
evanj [2d\]: haha mcw
]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]C[cashcow [4d\]: lee changho just got bored of Go
cashcow [4d\]: s17 
cashcow [4d\]: q17 
cashcow [4d\]: s18 
]
;W[oh]C[cashcow [4d\]: p12 
BenSenTen [?\]: cow is right
tonehog: perhaps an exposure adjustment would help to view the board better
BenSenTen [?\]: lee need love more than go
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes too much light.
LedZepplin [2d\]: yeah :\\
Luhmann: all lee need is love
LedZepplin [2d\]: i can see only the black spots
mcw85 [7k\]: All we do is nag...
tonehog: hehe
evanj [2d\]: what is everyone talking about w/ lee chang ho
BenSenTen [?\]: hard to imagine cow is more intelligent than human nowaday...
Sebastian [2k\]: why ignore q17 it isnt thaaat smaal
evanj [2d\]: yes it is, sebastian
cashcow [4d\]: we got genes therapy with Einstein's brain cells
LedZepplin [2d\]: not able to zoom in? :X
dimitar [2k\]: "7 stones, and 1 saddle." - Albert Einstein
Karcusrd [7k\]: JS...why does Go allways feal like a BattlefieldBattlefieldBattlefield
Sebastian [2k\]: itts big for b 
cashcow [4d\]: why is B thinking??
cashcow [4d\]: that's being unfair
evanj [2d\]: not really, sebastian
dimitar [2k\]: hes reading out the endgame
Sebastian [2k\]: gets all the corner
evanj [2d\]: not as big as the top
Sebastian [2k\]: hm guess b would be happy to connect on top
evanj [2d\]: and it's not that simple either tactically
ronnyss [?\]: and lose m15
evanj [2d\]: w still has options there after q17
BenSenTen [?\]: guess b would not bother to connect, he said he would alive easily
Luhmann: w has h4
]
;B[fd]C[GoGetta [-\]: They both have two weak groups
Sebastian [2k\]: hm guess b wants the top afterall
evanj [2d\]: this could get complicated
]
;W[gc]C[godfather1 [1k\]: w is 7d KGS???
mcw85 [7k\]: *d
mcw85 [7k\]: 8d
evanj [2d\]: w is escaping
Luhmann: whats his account pls?
kiusasori [2d\]: zchen 8d
evanj [2d\]: luh: zchen
Luhmann: o its zchen :P
Luhmann: thx
LedZepplin [2d\]: please eurogo
LedZepplin [2d\]: zoom in
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, Z. Chen is zchen.
Gresil [-\]: eurogo...
mcw85 [7k\]: He CANNOT
evanj [2d\]: led: the person in charge of the camera can't see you
mcw85 [7k\]: And he is USGO.
evanj [2d\]: let it go
jszmajda [?\]: LedZepplin: plus I think it's a cheap webcam that doesn't have zoom
tonehog: many webcams are fixed focus = no zoom
LedZepplin [2d\]: :\\
evanj [2d\]: life isn't fair
USGO1 [-\]: I believe that's the case here.
]
;B[ed]C[Sebastian [2k\]: b lost some options on top now
Erimies [4d\]: peep
mcw85 [7k\]: Actually, his name is Matt and he is wearing sneakers.
Luhmann: no : PEEP
Vibration [7k\]: oh f16
BenSenTen [?\]: b's 2 stones against w''s 9 stones
Vibration [7k\]: is what my gnugo 3.8 did
mcw85 [7k\]: W must connect.
ronnyss [?\]: and a lot of nerv
BenSenTen [?\]: w must kill
mcw85 [7k\]: First things first.
cashcow [4d\]: i saw this coming
godfather1 [1k\]: g16
Sebastian [2k\]: b with head against the wall
BenSenTen [?\]: kill first n no need to bother to connect
Luhmann: i dont see why he must kil
jszmajda [?\]: black has a lot of room to move south still
netrambler [2k\]: is b really 8P?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
Draak [1d\]: no its a joke
mcw85 [7k\]: Make belie e
]
;W[ff]
;B[gd]C[mcw85 [7k\]: He got 8p from UoP.
]
;W[hc]C[XY0908 [-\]: ...
Sebastian [2k\]: whats uop
BenSenTen [?\]: then u can get 9p there
Luhmann: UPS?
Bheeshma [4k\]: looks bad for b
mcw85 [7k\]: University of Phoenix.
bourbaki [-\]: why did the winner of the 08 open take black?
evanj [2d\]: yes, he is really 8p.
mcw85 [7k\]: Because he won nigiri.
]
;B[hd]C[evanj [2d\]: komi is 7.5, remember
cashcow [4d\]: f16 looks absolutely overplay and sandbag
bourbaki [-\]: oh right stupid aga rules
Erimies [4d\]: vey nice reading by b
Luhmann: lol 4dan-struggle
cashcow [4d\]: m17 still weak group
harlej9 [2k\]: uop is the polish communist secret service :)
USGO1 [-\]: No nigiri in US Open.
BenSenTen [?\]: overplay n sandbag??
cashcow [4d\]: i bet he doesn't do this if he meets I-changho
mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, assigned?
LedZepplin [2d\]: w have to do /j17
LedZepplin [2d\]: or J16
xedover [5k?\]: random pairing draw
Processus [2k\]: he cannot j 16
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
cashcow [4d\]: j16 !
LedZepplin [2d\]: why not?
LedZepplin [2d\]: J16 is the best
LedZepplin [2d\]: ohh
Luhmann: sure he can
LedZepplin [2d\]: he really cant
Processus [2k\]: causej 17
LedZepplin [2d\]: nope
LedZepplin [2d\]: he cant
netrambler [2k\]: h14
Luhmann: sure he can!
LedZepplin [2d\]: no
LedZepplin [2d\]: ..
BenSenTen [?\]: w would be very unhappy if he cannot kill this stupid b stupid
LedZepplin [2d\]: precessus
Sebastian [2k\]: which pros are at usgocongress?
mcw85 [7k\]: They nigir in the Masters. :-P
LedZepplin [2d\]: you dont see the tesuji
BenSenTen [?\]: group
Luhmann: lol w will not kill, trust me^^
Processus [2k\]: no i see it
mcw85 [7k\]: http://www.gocongress.org/pros.php
LedZepplin [2d\]: ohhh
]
;W[jb]C[LedZepplin [2d\]: J16
Sebastian [2k\]: thx
BenSenTen [?\]: w wants to kill, trust me
XY0908 [-\]: USGO1 [-\]: No nigiri in US Open <--- this means that the USGC decides?
Processus [2k\]: look!
LedZepplin [2d\]: woah
Processus [2k\]: ledzep you see
LedZepplin [2d\]: so?
LedZepplin [2d\]: J16 is able
Luhmann: 8p would not create a heavy group which would die that easily bense^^
LedZepplin [2d\]: nothing will happend
BenSenTen [?\]: this 8p is doing what u say
Processus [2k\]: h 14 seems to be normal
Sebastian [2k\]: many pros at usgo
evanj [2d\]: k15
Luhmann: i cant expect to understand bs plan here^
BenSenTen [?\]: this 8p just look down upon w, he just saying even i hv this heavy stupid group, can u kill??
Sebastian [2k\]: b destroying moyo attacking and helping his stones
USGO1 [-\]: AGA's pairing standards: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/TournamentStandards/
LedZepplin [2d\]: F16 was over play
LedZepplin [2d\]: :O
cashcow [4d\]: k18 is LAME
g6 [?\]: SE had W+56.5 after move 59; W+54.5 after 60; W+49.5 after 61 and now W+59.5 ... !!!
Xperiment [2k?\]: b is pretty much behind, had no chance
idan100 [1k\]: h14 
Xperiment [2k?\]: choice *
Erimies [4d\]: how old is chen?
LedZepplin [2d\]: SE is stupid
cashcow [4d\]: is B sweating profusely and wriggling in his seat?
Processus [2k\]: 139 
BenSenTen [?\]: k18 could be a good move to fight against 2 groups
cashcow [4d\]: yes, it could be the I-changho move
lolmdr [4k\]: Tartrate resign : Alzheimer semeiology
evanj [2d\]: no, cashcow, w is :)
BenSenTen [?\]: but even a 7k can play the ichangho move sometimes...
LedZepplin [2d\]: b is tartrate? O.O
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
evanj [2d\]: yes! no! maybe!
LedZepplin [2d\]: no he isnt
Processus [2k\]: i don't kno<
Syanide32 [5k\]: what's an i changho move? 
Processus [2k\]: can you repeat the question
HandA [1k\]: you ask and answer?
mcw85 [7k\]: It was a test.
lolmdr [4k\]: Tartrate scaled
Heidegger [1k\]: me want w to tin
Luhmann: b really made a mistake it seems
Luhmann: heidegger :P
Xperiment [2k?\]: he can't overlook things like that, no way
Luhmann: i thought so too but
sermoniz3r [14k\]: heidegger?
Luhmann: schould read heidegger
mcw85 [7k\]: sermoniz3r?
Sebastian [2k\]: b using hypnotizingsuji
Processus [2k\]: philosophe
bourbaki [-\]: who let the nazi philosopher in?
netrambler [2k\]: half an hour for one move
FatalFury [3k\]: maybe black thinks now about another place to play and let this situation at the moment untouched
Luhmann: pls bourbaki
Luhmann: world isnt that simple ^^
Processus [2k\]: heidegger wasn't nazi...
sermoniz3r [14k\]: :)
Luhmann: o actually he was
jszmajda [?\]: what is the timing on this game?
Heidegger [1k\]: he was but this doesnt change anything
Luhmann: but we schould stop here
lolmdr [4k\]: What about J 16 ? 
evanj [2d\]: i would love to see b get k15 and c12
Sebastian [2k\]: are there so many variations here?
Luhmann: i see no move for b
Processus [2k\]: he was but i stoped when he understand who was hitler
Heidegger [1k\]: c12 is kinda bad
LedZepplin [2d\]: K15 doesnt work?
Luhmann: maybe NO variations??
BenSenTen [?\]: now i wants to c w win this game
LedZepplin [2d\]: b is in big trouble
Karcusrd [7k\]: Q11
evanj [2d\]: c12 not right away, mind you
lolmdr [4k\]: J 16 group sacrifice for the center ... 
Sebastian [2k\]: where is the trouble?
Sebastian [2k\]: w playing passive here
dimitar [2k\]: nazi, yahtze, schweppes , what comes next?
Luhmann: passiv???
]
;B[ee]C[Luhmann: hehe 
evanj [2d\]: hm... b is up to something :)
Luhmann: here tartrate goes^^
lolmdr [4k\]: it's damezumari 
dimitar [2k\]: zen puzzle
g6 [?\]: what rank, dimitar?
]
;W[df]C[dimitar [2k\]: 5 kyup
mcw85 [7k\]: Kyu + gup = kyup?
dimitar [2k\]: what?
DonValley [?\]: gup is korean kyu
LedZepplin [2d\]: i cant see nothin :\\
DonValley [?\]: kyu is japanese kyu
dimitar [2k\]: thats a strange answer but yeah i think its right
LedZepplin [2d\]: get the camera closer or something
BenSenTen [?\]: as a 8p, b should be ashame of himself to play like this.
Luhmann: so you can see all??
jszmajda [?\]: LZ look for the fullscreen button, that can help some
evanj [2d\]: led, what is it you want to see?
]
;B[gg]C[Xperiment [2k?\]: you should be ashamed too, bensenten
DonValley [?\]: oh its broadcast live? on eurotv?
evanj [2d\]: yes don
DonValley [?\]: ohh, is there a link?
xedover [5k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
DonValley [?\]: thanks
evanj [2d\]: you can see an asian guy and a korean guy in blue shirts staring intently at something on a table between them
BenSenTen [?\]: i guess u must be a korean, X
evanj [2d\]: *chinese guy
xedover [5k?\]: but don't complain about the camera
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks, xedover.
Xperiment [2k?\]: aw
Luhmann: g16 light or heavy?
Luhmann: lol
Luhmann: i have no idea
Xperiment [2k?\]: i wasn't expecting that
evanj [2d\]: it all depends...
DuiBuQi: g16 is overweight
DonValley [?\]: its hard for black eiher way
Gresil [-\]: heavy
dimitar [2k\]: ok 4 kyup
justatry [1k\]: hard for w too
meuns [2k\]: Kim is too strong
XY0908 [-\]: Mr. Kim changed his shirt from red to blue today ;-)
justatry [1k\]: bo more blood
Sebastian [2k\]: b sure connected ^^ he read it out
meuns [2k\]: Why a top pro is playing this tournament ?
play9x9 [-\]: BenSenTen, why should he be ashamed?
]
;W[gf]C[DonValley [?\]: what you need an account for eurotv? i forgot my password :(
BenSenTen [?\]: pls read from very beginning before u ask
albundy [2k\]: because he's not a "top" pro
jszmajda [?\]: Don: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest also works
DonValley [?\]: ohh thanks
BenSenTen [?\]: i would not answer stupid question like this
]
;B[id]C[evanj [2d\]: ben, cool it, you're the one insulting people
]
;W[kd]
;B[if]C[cashcow [4d\]: it's a trap!
Luhmann: smart w^
Xperiment [2k?\]: don't state stupid thing either
cashcow [4d\]: NOW W in trouble!
play9x9 [-\]: to BenSenTen :  ok
LedZepplin [2d\]: no
LedZepplin [2d\]: b just get ok
meuns [2k\]: you are too negative ben...
meuns [2k\]: xD
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh
chwan [6d\]: Hello Fellow Drunk Kibitz-ers!
LedZepplin [2d\]: he do
LedZepplin [2d\]: nic b
LedZepplin [2d\]: nice*
meuns [2k\]: i can't read the beginning of the tchat
DonValley [?\]: view offline
cashcow [4d\]: B got the centre
royu [5d\]: w h13 imo
Xperiment [2k?\]: the center is kinda thin, though
LedZepplin [2d\]: center? O.O
LedZepplin [2d\]: how the center?
Sebastian [2k\]: it isnt settled yet
Greenbudda [6d\]: h13
jSd [8k\]: andy lu w<on?
cashcow [4d\]: the laddersare not working and B will slaughter W
Sebastian [2k\]: w can gain strength attacking b
danigabi [6d\]: both b and white have very thin positions
DuiBuQi: Use a skyjack not a ladder -_-
DonValley [?\]: white thin?
DonValley [?\]: black is waiting for his tower to collapse
Xperiment [2k?\]: b thinner
che [-\]: will d13 get problems?
BenSenTen [?\]: b moves his face toward bowl when he drink soup, dui
Ras [18k\]: do something crazy... b m7
Gresil [-\]: that would certainly be crazy on white's turn
Koreangrl8 [3k\]: no handi?o.0
Ras [18k\]: but bold.
hehe2009 [1d?\]: w trouble upper or left side
lolmdr [4k\]: -slow game ... 
XY0908 [-\]: Is that you on the camera in red shirt working with a computer, USGO1?
BenSenTen [?\]: i guess w still cannot kill even b is stupid shape
mcw85 [7k\]: I always pass during important fights.
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, red shirt is me.
jSd [8k\]: bbw< w<in round2?
mcw85 [7k\]: Probably.
BenSenTen [?\]: let's c what u look like..
XY0908 [-\]: You are handsomer than I thought ;-)
xedover [5k?\]: jsd, he's on board2
jszmajda [?\]: oh don't troll the recorder
dimitar [2k\]: the red realy brings out the color of your shirt
cashcow [4d\]: It's a trap!
XY0908 [-\]: Can you look at the camera for three seconds please?
evanj [2d\]: ssh
DuiBuQi: I think that USGO1 looks dreamy
cashcow [4d\]: issit sweety?
USGO1 [-\]: No, not about me. 
lolmdr [4k\]: Chen is sleeping quietly
chwan [6d\]: so to see the live feeds?
chwan [6d\]: where to see the live feeds pls?
Syanide32 [5k\]: anyone keeping track of how the other games are coming along?
danigabi [6d\]: are you going to ask him to strip for you, XY ?
DuiBuQi: my god chwan ...
dimitar [2k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
evanj [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
evanj [2d\]: oh
evanj [2d\]: what he said
tonehog: or http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest
Xperiment [2k?\]: K14
cashcow [4d\]: eew
chwan [6d\]: DuiBuQi: my god chwan ...  i m not GOD....pls dont misunderstood me ...
royu [5d\]: w can play a lot of gutsy moves here
chwan [6d\]: grrrrr. need to log in....
GoGetta [-\]: Lol who is shaking like they have to go to the bathroom?
danigabi [6d\]: B is tartrate right?
royu [5d\]: but still think h13 more solid
justatry [1k\]: who is grrrrr ?
jszmajda [?\]: chwan use ustream, no login
mcw85 [7k\]: Strange behavior...
chwan [6d\]: thanks, jszmajda
DonValley [?\]: wait! b is tartrate?!.?!.?!?!?!?!?!?
justatry [1k\]: danigabi, alexandre dinerstein said he is
danigabi [6d\]: yeah
Syanide32 [5k\]: does anyone use those go bowls ouside of tournaments?
Gresil [-\]: heck no
mcw85 [7k\]: He "guesses" that he is.
danigabi [6d\]: for once , saying "x is tartrate" is true
chwan [6d\]: yes!! I see the LIVE FEED!!!
DonValley [?\]: wait alexandre dinerstein is tartrate?
cashcow [4d\]: my kids put frogs in them
evanj [2d\]: no, the ing bowls are horrible things
justatry [1k\]: lol no, don
danigabi [6d\]: i heard DR Straw cofirmed if i remember right
DonValley [?\]: oh haha
jszmajda [?\]: cashcow, don't the frogs end up all poked?
USGO1 [-\]: Clubs get to keep bowls, so yes they do get used.
DonValley [?\]: laexender dinseteirn said black is ttartrate?
DonValley [?\]: sorry for spelling
Luhmann: e aid right
]
;W[kf]C[xedover [5k?\]: but others disagreed... please focus on the game
mcw85 [7k\]: Silly discussion. Believe who want is tartrate. I think Clark Kent is tartrate.
Karcusrd [7k\]: so slow
YeknomGib [4k\]: This game is too fast
schwing [1k\]: <- waits for chuck norris
lolmdr [4k\]: D 13 group dead in a few
chwan [6d\]: so who is the PRO 8p Mr Kim? The blue shirt guy with longer hair?
Karcusrd [7k\]: few hrs
danigabi [6d\]: yes
Luhmann: hes not 4kyu lolmdr
Gresil [-\]: the older guy is ki
Gresil [-\]: +m
evanj [2d\]: ues chwan
danigabi [6d\]: i met zchen several years ago
mcw85 [7k\]: Kim is the asian with the blue shirt.
danigabi [6d\]: he is a fun guy
evanj [2d\]: hahaha mcw
chwan [6d\]: grrrrrrr, they are so young :(
HandA [1k\]: the guy with glasses
evanj [2d\]: and light-colored pants
chwan [6d\]: thanks for the replies
Arhiman [3k\]: hey, I'm sure I'm younger, chwan :)
IGoofy [1d\]: kim is the one with blue shirt , glasses and black hair
mcw85 [7k\]: The guy who is rocking back and forth.
Vibration [7k\]: w is zchen right ?
evanj [2d\]: we have at least established that he is NOT the guy in the red shirt
]
;B[fg]C[chwan [6d\]: white is zchen???
evanj [2d\]: b moved right after w left hahaha
evanj [2d\]: yes, chwna
evanj [2d\]: chwan
GoGetta [-\]: Lol b
mez [13k\]: b is sneaky
chwan [6d\]: cool, zchen looks so different now
Vibration [7k\]: Chen Zha....
g6 [?\]: what, invisible?
Dogen [5k\]: what's the story with those bowls - I've never seen them in person
GoGetta [-\]: B wants white to lose time
Vibration [7k\]: for that i tought
evanj [2d\]: now w comes back, b moves again and hopes w doesn't notice
Greenbudda [6d\]: h14
cashcow [4d\]: young is good. they are fearless and will KILL the pros!
Dogen [5k\]: do they have like springs in them or something?
]
;W[hg]C[Luhmann: wow he looks relly fresh again!
evanj [2d\]: dogen: yes they do
Dogen [5k\]: why?
evanj [2d\]: they're designed to make it obvious that the bowls have the right number of stones in them
jszmajda [?\]: good for travel, keeps the stones from chipping
evanj [2d\]: and they are springloaded from the bottom
evanj [2d\]: they're awful
danigabi [6d\]: uhm
Dogen [5k\]: like Pez dispensers?
evanj [2d\]: yes
danigabi [6d\]: e14 ?
danigabi [6d\]: what is w plan?
evanj [2d\]: except when you play, you can lock them down
netrambler [2k\]: black no good
evanj [2d\]: so they are like regular bowls, sort of
cashcow [4d\]: W wants the middle
danigabi [6d\]: e14 e13 h12 w is captured like this
evanj [2d\]: except made of plastic, and hexagonal
ural2001 [20k?\]: rehi ALL
Dogen [5k\]: but they're using slate and shell stones?
evanj [2d\]: no, ing stones
evanj [2d\]: which aren't bad
Syanide32 [5k\]: how long has this game been going on now?
DuiBuQi: I put rice in my bowl -_-
Xperiment [2k?\]: w denying b's move, eh
Dogen [5k\]: what are ing stones made of?
GoGetta [-\]: White could win this
evanj [2d\]: i actually don't know what ing stones are made of
Gresil [-\]: plastic with metal inside
evanj [2d\]: but it
evanj [2d\]: it's some sort of plastic
Dogen [5k\]: wow, that sounds cheap
chwan [6d\]: I have a set of ING stones at home
xedover [5k?\]: plastic w/lead center
DonValley [?\]: cant b just e13????.................
cashcow [4d\]: B in trouble here
lolmdr [4k\]: tartrate entartred
evanj [2d\]: ah
evanj [2d\]: so don't eat them
chwan [6d\]: ING stones are actually quite good.
Ras [18k\]: tasting?
evanj [2d\]: whoa, new guy
cashcow [4d\]: W+70
DonValley [?\]: i dont like double convex
tonehog: bake-o-lite, or some such?
jszmajda [?\]: USGO1 relief hitter!
Dogen [5k\]: B K15? then J13 if it's blocked?
chwan [6d\]: the weight and the hand feel is better than most other stones
Karcusrd [7k\]: this game long long from over
Dogen [5k\]: nothing feels like real stones...
danigabi [6d\]: e14 e13 h12 h14 j13 g12 f12 g11 f11 f10 e11 e10 d11 d10 c12 b11 d12 b12 b13  b wins this
evanj [2d\]: hello new guy
BenSenTen [?\]: u like double concave?
Syanide32 [5k\]: hey new guy, do you know aprox how long this game has been going on?
GoGetta [-\]: Where are the cheerleaders???
BenSenTen [?\]: or double flat?
evanj [2d\]: about an hour, syanide
lolmdr [4k\]: Misread danigabi
danigabi [6d\]: e14 e13 h12 h14 j13 g12 f12 g11 f11 g10 j11 f10 e11 e10 d11 d10 c12 b11 d12 b12 b12 
USGO1 [-\]: Hello, we began a little after 9.  Not sure of the exact time though.
shumina [17k\]: oh ..
HandA [1k\]: tldr
Ras [18k\]: b12 b12?
chwan [6d\]: I dont know either of them.... so no incentive to do the cheer dance:)
cashcow [4d\]: B didn't expect l14 and h13 ?
danigabi [6d\]: oh no
DuiBuQi: If W plays t1 black could trap him with t2 then s1 s2 r1 r2 q1 q2 p1 p2 
jszmajda [?\]: USGO1: what's the time limit?
che [-\]: e14 
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;B[hf]C[che [-\]: :(
danigabi [6d\]: e14 doesnt work
danigabi [6d\]: i was misreading
USGO1 [-\]: 2 hours main time with 5 periods of 30 seconds byo yomi are the time settings for the US Open
HandA [1k\]: rofl
Dogen [5k\]: oh, drat
DonValley [?\]: no e14 doesnt work
jszmajda [?\]: thanks
DonValley [?\]: i just read it
chwan [6d\]: get a drink, dani. It works wonders!:)
danigabi [6d\]: i just woke up. i need coffee
cashcow [4d\]: that's a drink
]
;W[ef]C[che [-\]: coffee= black gold
chwan [6d\]: get some milk from cow, so it is gentle on the stomach :)
danigabi [6d\]: inducing now?
che [-\]: j12?
danigabi [6d\]: h12 j13 k13 j12 k14 
evanj [2d\]: the ($%*( is about to hit the fan
mez [13k\]: shit*
DonValley [?\]: hard for b
BenSenTen [?\]: some said  crude oil = black gold
cashcow [4d\]: but w is a weak group...
chwan [6d\]: i bet black will run the F13,G13 2 stones
dimitar [2k\]: the bracket dollar percentige asterix bracket?
cashcow [4d\]: i think W is gonna get killed
Dogen [5k\]: why not J13 right away?
DonValley [?\]: then what does b do?
chwan [6d\]: RUN F13, G13! RUN!
danigabi [6d\]: there are 2 ways to run
danigabi [6d\]: H12
mcw85 [7k\]: ( is parantheses.
]
;B[hh]
;W[ig]C[DonValley [?\]: u dont want those two stones?
dimitar [2k\]: ah
evanj [2d\]: sorry, typo. I meant &*^@
danigabi [6d\]: i win
dimitar [2k\]: makes sense now
DonValley [?\]: and the once one space jump
DonValley [?\]: ?
danigabi [6d\]: give me the pro prize please
GoGetta [-\]: No one over there is encouraging i would pat white on the back and say you can do this
]
;B[ke]C[Luhmann: omg
Luhmann: game will be over soon
che [-\]: *danigabi for pro*
danigabi [6d\]: ah.. great order
Xperiment [2k?\]: hostilies starting
royu [5d\]: game over for w now I think
evanj [2d\]: L15 very nice move
danigabi [6d\]: after k13 k14, w will nnot play at K15 after L15
longtong [16k?\]: hi this is my first time here.. we can discuss about what to put?? or have to wait till they place the move already?
danigabi [6d\]: if w k15, game is over
DonValley [?\]: they cant ssee
evanj [2d\]: long: go ahead, suggest whatever you want
danigabi [6d\]: its like pass
cashcow [4d\]: k14 
]
;W[je]C[longtong [16k?\]: ok :D
DonValley [?\]: and plus this is prodcasting
chwan [6d\]: L15 is nicccccce
kent1956 [10k?\]: longtong they can not see the screen where they are
evanj [2d\]: and welcome
DonValley [?\]: still hard for b
longtong [16k?\]: i see...thanks...
IGoofy [1d\]: some people thinks they are pro for discovering ataris on the board
che [-\]: w collapsing soon
DonValley [?\]: no
Luhmann: yes
chwan [6d\]: I agree with che
mcw85 [7k\]: K13! Pro move!
danigabi [6d\]: IGoofy: pros always discover atari
DonValley [?\]: b collapsing
kent1956 [10k?\]: IGoofy even a 20kyu can see a pro move once in a blue moon
IGoofy [1d\]: ^^
]
;B[jg]
;W[ih]C[Xperiment [2k?\]: lol kent
che [-\]: 8p never collapses
DonValley [?\]: well
]
;B[jf]C[danigabi [6d\]: miai
lolmdr [4k\]: All the stones are shifted : one case
danigabi [6d\]: m16 g11  miai
DonValley [?\]: the first move corner anyone can see
longtong [16k?\]: M14 run?
Xperiment [2k?\]: how mean :p
evanj [2d\]: wait what happened
evanj [2d\]: boooooooo
drauglir [2d\]: even if they survive somehow, b gets a lot of strength
]
(;W[ii]C[DonValley [?\]: i guess b can accept this result
Luhmann: m14 is pushing from behind
che [-\]: f11
Dogen [5k\]: M13 now?
Gresil [-\]: g17 isn't safe, is it
DonValley [?\]: wair
DonValley [?\]: wait
lolmdr [4k\]: I said D 13 is dead ....
DonValley [?\]: b can m16 sente?!?!?
danigabi [6d\]: M16 is satisfactory
Luhmann: but d13 is alive
DonValley [?\]: this isi way good for b
danigabi [6d\]: no need to play aything weird like l18
che [-\]: yes m16 is a nice spot
che [-\]: but can do later
DonValley [?\]: should j17 first
danigabi [6d\]: no not later
aga2k [4k\]: m16 huge
danigabi [6d\]: becase black has to play m13
chwan [6d\]: I had not had my drink, so at the meantime, i just agree with people ^^
DonValley [?\]: j17 first
GoGetta [-\]: Does anyone knowthe website for Go congress?
Ranye [9k\]: f11
DonValley [?\]: to get rid of w alternatives
DonValley [?\]: http://gocongress.org ?
Ras [18k\]: did u try google?
GoGetta [-\]: k thx
DonValley [?\]: wow that was a total guesss
Holmes [-\]: you should be awarded the account 'google'
DonValley [?\]: uh oh
drauglir [2d\]: donvalley: i can't see much hope for those stones right now
chwan [6d\]: sorry, no undo!!
DonValley [?\]: haha
DonValley [?\]: yeah its like over i guess
]
;B[eh]C[Luhmann: hehe
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.gocongress.org/
Xperiment [2k?\]: scary move
kent1956 [10k?\]: if you aren't registered already, you can register with the AGA and recieve the ejournal, there will be daily reports on the congress
longtong [16k?\]: can we download the gameplay in gocongress?
kent1956 [10k?\]: no, only here
Vibration [7k\]: d14 in trouble right ?
longtong [16k?\]: ok..
Luhmann: d10
chwan [6d\]: zchen going to get Kim-med!!!
dimitar [2k\]: sideways
IGoofy [1d\]: you have to wait for they finished before you can download it
longtong [16k?\]: i would say D12, white has to save the patch
lolmdr [4k\]: D 13 dead
Luhmann: d10
longtong [16k?\]: all dead???
kent1956 [10k?\]: I like E 11
FatalFury [3k\]: this is a miai for white, left or top group will die ;)
Xperiment [2k?\]: w is gonna survive, surely
mcw85 [7k\]: Some miai.
Luhmann: top group isnt alive?
longtong [16k?\]: sorry, just started playing few months ago. not good with life and death
luda [11k\]: so many people watching.This event is truly a success
jszmajda [?\]: where can white live with D13?
HandA [1k\]: left group WILL die 
Luhmann: its alive imo
Gresil [-\]: top is unsettled
Luhmann: hard to kill top
chwan [6d\]: I smell white's dead, the D13 dragon
danigabi [6d\]: i guess that even if he lives, after m16 game is over
danigabi [6d\]: m16 makes black super strong and w weak all over
IGoofy [1d\]: resigning now or later is miai for w
evanj [2d\]: heh
delperier [4k\]: e11?
DonValley [?\]: haha
kent1956 [10k?\]: E 11 is what I think
evanj [2d\]: e11 = w dead
dimitar [2k\]: b13
Luhmann: d10 pepp run run run and resign
ParrotHead [4k\]: zchen always seem to get lot of weak groups in his games  usually he can make them live
DonValley [?\]: e11 is best try
Xperiment [2k?\]: d11 seems fine, at least a ko
DonValley [?\]: oops i saw it wrong i meant extend d11
FatalFury [3k\]: i cant calc so good, but i think that M16 for w is more worth than the left group
DonValley [?\]: yeah e11 is dead
drauglir [2d\]: i'd say that w shoud tenuki and leave those stones for a while behind
donGoku [5k\]: w is zchen?
DonValley [?\]: yeah
Xperiment [2k?\]: tenuki where ?
chwan [6d\]: I bet 1 drink on white D13 group is dead. any takers?
DonValley [?\]: draug thats like resinging
Syanide32 [5k\]: oh the suspence
donGoku [5k\]: what a surprise,go Chen!:D
DonValley [?\]: u pplan to give the left up?
USGO1 [-\]: Missed two moves. Fixing it now.
evanj [2d\]: didn't w just move?
])
(;W[ld]
;B[me]C[DonValley [?\]: yeah
Mihan [3k\]: some missed moves I assume. 
Larrave [3k\]: white not looking very happy
]
;W[ii]C[Mem0r3x [1k\]: USGO1 [-\]: Missed two moves. Fixing it now.
]
;B[eh]C[albundy [2k\]: power to change history
]
;W[lg]C[DonValley [?\]: hmm
]
;B[lh]C[evanj [2d\]: this is a lot more than two moves
yabyum [2k\]: what the hell is sis guy doing?
DonValley [?\]: ok for w
IGoofy [1d\]: time machine
LedZepplin [2d\]: w is ok
LedZepplin [2d\]: i guess
jszmajda [?\]: they were playing while fixing
USGO1 [-\]: m16, n15 had been left out.
Luhmann: have you ever waited 6 hours for an e-mail reply from a girl? oO i feel like 15 again and schould read hermann hesse. at least this game robs time
drauglir [2d\]: ha. here's the tenuki i waited for :)
Luhmann: sorry
Planets [7k\]: no.
dimitar [2k\]: you're welcome!
g6 [?\]: nurries!
dimitar [2k\]: \\o/
]
;W[ej]
;B[di]
;W[dj]C[g6 [?\]: \\o\\
]
;B[bi]C[LedZepplin [2d\]: seems w saw somthing here
tonehog: /o/
Larrave [3k\]: it would annoy me
Luhmann: o how many drinks you lost now?
Larrave [3k\]: if my oponnent would play so confident and fast
]
;W[ch]C[Ras [18k\]: c12 didnt work earlier?
]
;B[fj]C[Luhmann: no
Xperiment [2k?\]: aw
Luhmann: but  b tenukied
Xperiment [2k?\]:  b so strong
Ras [18k\]: i tried to play it out but i didnt find out y it didnt work
tonehog: is b12 too early?
Larrave [3k\]: black didnt tenuki
schwing [1k\]: f12 ?
aga2k [4k\]: b just 8p
Epocselet [1k\]: it is not a tenuki, luhmann.
Arhiman [3k\]: b12 ajikeshi
evanj [2d\]: b12 not needed
Mihan [3k\]: looks like disaster for w. 
danigabi [6d\]: w dead
]
;W[mg]C[Yippie [2d\]: actually, to me b looks weak around f12?
Arhiman [3k\]: white nice top though
]
;B[md]C[DonValley [?\]: can give up d11
dimitar [2k\]: w going to sign again
Yippie [2d\]: but I haven't red it
schwing [1k\]: yes, what's the answer to w f12?
LedZepplin [2d\]: M18
DonValley [?\]: f12?
DonValley [?\]: f11
]
;W[ic]C[g6 [?\]: how soon, dimitar?
schwing [1k\]: f12 f11 e11 and w at least out
]
;B[kg]
;W[lf]C[dimitar [2k\]: 12 moves
Larrave [3k\]: zchen was playing strong current days
dimitar [2k\]: give and take
DonValley [?\]: f12 f11 
DonValley [?\]: f12 f11 e11 g12 d12 f9 
Larrave [3k\]: or am i just missing it?*g*
Kyuss [1k\]: n12 
]
;B[ki]C[DonValley [?\]: w collapsed.... this pro is good
dimitar [2k\]: person in black a pro?
DonValley [?\]: yeah
freddygo [5k\]: how did w collapse?
DonValley [?\]: Korean 8p
longtong [16k?\]: p = pro? higher than d dan right?
DonValley [?\]: by dieing
freddygo [5k\]: talking about j11?
DonValley [?\]: not necearly
Larrave [3k\]: cant believe m17 is as big as d14
DonValley [?\]: some amatuers dont wanna b pro
g6 [?\]: i think dimitar was talking about the spectator wearing black
DonValley [?\]: and are stronger than some pros
kiusasori [2d\]: dan are amateur ranking, and kim is 8dan in pro ranking
Kyuss [1k\]: but saying that a 1p is stronger than a 1d is correct, if thats what you mean
DonValley [?\]: but generally pros are strogner than ammutuers
Planets [7k\]: stronger than pros?  you mean strong as pros right?
kiusasori [2d\]: amateur 7d are around 1p
longtong [16k?\]: I see...but you can choose the rank you get in KGS ??
Gresil [-\]: if the max dan rank in USA is 7d, these players would both count as amateur 7d
Luhmann: who is stronger than a pro plsÜ
DonValley [?\]: some amatuers have the strength to be a pro.
longtong [16k?\]: i see
DonValley [?\]: but choose to be amutuer
DonValley [?\]: luhmann: chuck norris
]
;W[fk]C[Luminaire [3k\]: and they lack things like knowledge or rare joseki
freddygo [5k\]: w can go e11, right
IGoofy [1d\]: some pros can compeat with top amas
Luminaire [3k\]: of
Kyuss [1k\]: e11 d12 
DonValley [?\]: Igoofy, other way around u mean?
Larrave [3k\]: chuck norris beats all pros simultaenously and without a board XD
Yippie [2d\]: pro = gaining an income via something, pro-rank means recognition by some sort of institution, a trade guild of sorts
Luhmann: some hovercrafts are full with eels
usopenkk:  go "kim myung wan" ! 
Modoc [7k\]: longtong no inless its changed from when I started to play on kgs. Your rank is based on who you win games agenst. But if you go out and pick on 5d's and win then you start as a 6d
IGoofy [1d\]: no^^
usopenkk: no?
DonValley [?\]: pro = passing the pro exam, yippie
FatalFury [3k\]: @Larrave: you mean with a board ;P
danigabi [6d\]: i am a pro, since my income comes from teaching go
]
;B[gj]C[evanj [2d\]: what does this exam consist of, incidentally?
danigabi [6d\]: only hanguk kiwon doesnt agree
DonValley [?\]: games
Yippie [2d\]: recognition by an institution DonValley
DonValley [?\]: like a tournament
Larrave [3k\]: chuck norris doesnt need a board infront of himself to beat the pros
DonValley [?\]: watch hikaru or go to n exam lol
Larrave [3k\]: hes playing "blind"
kent1956 [10k?\]: danigabi have  you passed a pro exam?
Yippie [2d\]: didn't say how they do it
danigabi [6d\]: nope
dimitar [2k\]: hikaru or go/
dimitar [2k\]: ?
DonValley [?\]: yeah
kent1956 [10k?\]: Well then...
]
;W[fi]C[chwan [6d\]: only China, Korea, Japan and Taiwan has PRO GO exams
DonValley [?\]: hikaru no go or pro exam if u need to know what ones like
DonValley [?\]: or google......
longtong [16k?\]: I see..thanks
Planets [7k\]: woosh.... kent misses the sarcasm...
Kyuss [1k\]: g11 e11 d12 f12 b12 g12 e13 
kent1956 [10k?\]: chwan, yes I know
Yippie [2d\]: danigabi, you make you're living on go?
Arhiman [3k\]: g11 ?
]
;B[ei]C[danigabi [6d\]: yes
kent1956 [10k?\]: I got it....just making side comment
Yippie [2d\]: then you're a pro
DonValley [?\]: no
danigabi [6d\]: yes thats what i mentioned
DonValley [?\]: haha
Larrave [3k\]: cornel isnt a pro too
Luhmann: resign????
danigabi [6d\]: im pro but korean go asociatio doesnt agree :)
GoGetta [-\]: g11 only move
DonValley [?\]: u guys r joking right?
Kyuss [1k\]: you are a go professional but not a professional player
kiusasori [2d\]: look like w fall
AoX [11k\]: agrees with kyuss
iceball [-\]: so, who won?
Luhmann: b
freddygo [5k\]: w is weak everywhere
kent1956 [10k?\]: Don, why? If you live by giving go lessons you are a professional
Arhiman [3k\]: b
kiusasori [2d\]: fail*
longtong [16k?\]: E12 is dead?
DonValley [?\]: KGSers these days
Yippie [2d\]: well, tou're korean?
dimitar [2k\]: has it been 12 moves yet
Yippie [2d\]: are you^^
]
;W[gk]C[danigabi [6d\]: no im not
DonValley [?\]: hard to explain
danigabi [6d\]: im from argentina
mcw85 [7k\]: Is black tartrate?
DonValley [?\]: aguilar?
]
;B[hj]C[danigabi [6d\]: i could ask AAGO to give me a 1p certificate
g6 [?\]: it's been 12 moves for a while, give and take
Yippie [2d\]: do that ^_^
ryoku [3k\]: danigabi what do you charge for teaching games
DonValley [?\]: w caollapsed
kent1956 [10k?\]: H11
danigabi [6d\]: ryoku, my fees are in my info
IGoofy [1d\]: pro in go means you are working for an go association
longtong [16k?\]: correct me if i am wrong. but white seems to have alot of weak points.
evanj [2d\]: h11 g11, kent
KillerMonk [4d\]: yes , seems almost over
danigabi [6d\]: w is lost here
danigabi [6d\]: w has 5 groups only in this area
chwan [6d\]: u r correct -ed, longtong
]
;W[hi]C[kent1956 [10k?\]: hmmm
danigabi [6d\]: H9?
Kyuss [1k\]: h11
HandA [1k\]: Not like B's better
LedZepplin [2d\]: G11
LedZepplin [2d\]: ..
Kyuss [1k\]: g11 only move
dimitar [2k\]: g12
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh no
danigabi [6d\]: its onot only move..
LedZepplin [2d\]: wow
LedZepplin [2d\]: w good
LedZepplin [2d\]: !!
chwan [6d\]: black has e9 d9 d8 e8 c9 , and the white G9 group is short of liberties
]
;B[ek]C[DonValley [?\]: g11 isnt only move
XY0908 [-\]: How many groups of B then, dani?
danigabi [6d\]: there are more to consider
]
;W[dk]C[HandA [1k\]: e9
DonValley [?\]: i was about to mention this
Kyuss [1k\]: hmm
LedZepplin [2d\]: nice tesuji dam :D
TheMagic [3k\]: does this tournament have a cash prize?
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh 
OrangeKyo [5k\]: what about j10 
LedZepplin [2d\]: no tesuji here
DonValley [?\]: yes
HandA [1k\]: of course
danigabi [6d\]: this is also a healthy cut
Mem0r3x [1k\]: f12 works?
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh
dimitar [2k\]: i once saw a tesuji
danigabi [6d\]: C7 no longer works
LedZepplin [2d\]: there is a tesuji
Kyuss [1k\]: d8 e8 c9 e9 h9 ?
]
;B[ck]C[DonValley [?\]: w is... screwed
LedZepplin [2d\]: hmm im not sure
longtong [16k?\]: get E9?
Luhmann: resign
DonValley [?\]: unless u can find a way for w
longtong [16k?\]: i feel that its quite close actually...hard to say still
DonValley [?\]: i think hes screwed
LedZepplin [2d\]: no
LedZepplin [2d\]: there is something in F13 area
]
;W[gh]C[LedZepplin [2d\]: :O
Kyuss [1k\]: d8 only move :P
DonValley [?\]: just capture
]
;B[dl]C[evanj [2d\]: ?
kiusasori [2d\]: d8 talke
longtong [16k?\]: why didnt it capture?
dimitar [2k\]: res
chwan [6d\]: misclick obviously
kiusasori [2d\]: w can resign now
Gzperi [2k\]: over
longtong [16k?\]: ok...
chwan [6d\]: undo please
kent1956 [10k?\]: lol
kiusasori [2d\]: no more aji
GoGetta [-\]: Over
Kyuss [1k\]: lol chwan
Meganoide [2d\]: he got another weal group
ParrotHead [4k\]: w looks very dead
dimitar [2k\]: pass
chwan [6d\]: ^^
]
;W[pc]C[evanj [2d\]: dead all over
dimitar [2k\]: lol
HandA [1k\]: why g12 LOL
DonValley [?\]: kill more center
IGoofy [1d\]: w thinks hes on kgs
Gresil [-\]: just a flesh wound!
FraTeoX [4k\]:  B n12
]
;B[re]C[dimitar [2k\]: lol
longtong [16k?\]: the top area is still alive, bottom still alive botom right too
longtong [16k?\]: might be possible for a comeback or small lose at least...
kent1956 [10k?\]: cut off my arm...just a flesh wound
ParrotHead [4k\]: 1/4 board just a flesh wound
HandA [1k\]: what if w e9 instead of G12
Luhmann: still lost
evanj [2d\]: b has nearly a quarter of the board in cash
evanj [2d\]: that's a problem
DonValley [?\]: long its not about killing
DonValley [?\]: but since w died its over
DonValley [?\]: lost too much
kiusasori [2d\]: w will loose by more than 30
longtong [16k?\]: I see...
kiusasori [2d\]: too big
]
;W[qh]C[DonValley [?\]: u can count how many points b has iin the left
HandA [1k\]: G12 such a abysmal move
chwan [6d\]: black alive in sente
]
;B[op]C[kent1956 [10k?\]: W J12 in deep dodo now
chwan [6d\]: the R14 group
evanj [2d\]: oh man can't believe b got that point
Luhmann: temiki haha
Luhmann: tenuki
umbc [1k?\]:  http://tr.im/vi2R for live video of this game...
]
;W[pe]C[DonValley [?\]: too strong
DonValley [?\]: tenuki!
jszmajda [?\]: b seems confused that he's still playing
Larrave [3k\]: tenuji
Larrave [3k\]: ^^
Larrave [3k\]: tesuki
sutex [4k\]: Death Note:-)) rulez!
]
;B[pg]C[DonValley [?\]: tetnuki
Larrave [3k\]: deadnuki^^
Arhiman [3k\]: kentucky
Hanne [3k\]: b is a very energetic sitter
kent1956 [10k?\]: hard to see board postitions
Larrave [3k\]: hehe
USGO1 [-\]: Cash prize for  top winner last year was $1500 - $2000
]
;W[ph]
;B[rb]C[chwan [6d\]: o.O thats not a lot of money, i think?
Luhmann: right
DonValley [?\]: haha
evanj [2d\]: no it's not
longtong [16k?\]: ya
danigabi [6d\]: and this year?
Beginner [-\]: wat about this year?
]
;W[lp]C[DonValley [?\]: no its only 2 thousand ;)
]
;B[on]C[chwan [6d\]: the EGC winner has 5000 euros?
evanj [2d\]: $1,000,000!!!!!
kiusasori [2d\]: 20$ ?
ParrotHead [4k\]: not a very large prize
dimitar [2k\]: over 9000
]
;W[qn]C[Hanne [3k\]: crisis price
]
;B[qq]C[kent1956 [10k?\]: it will be nice when I get the Korean E-Goban over here
tonehog: over 9000!!?!?!
Kernow [3k\]: hello chaps. is b the fellow accused of being tartrate?
OrangeKyo [5k\]: well these players aren't all pros are they
]
;W[rq]C[OrangeKyo [5k\]: lol @ dimitar
DonValley [?\]: accused haha
]
;B[ln]C[DonValley [?\]: i love the "accused"
]
;W[ip]C[elfking [5k\]: lol accused :) 
Ras [18k\]: http://www.godiscussions.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8148&highlight=tartrate
AoX [11k\]: yeh but some ppl say he's innocent ^^
evanj [2d\]: man b is taking charge
Larrave [3k\]: black going to get half of the board
GoGetta [-\]: White is just making it worse
Hanne [3k\]: w trying to win in blitz
drauglir [2d\]: g3 is becoming quite important
elfking [5k\]: ooh 
Prodigious [5d?\]: The alleged murderer of many stones
AoX [11k\]: ^^
chwan [6d\]: There was a time in our GO club, there was a local national GO tournament.
Larrave [3k\]: you think zchen just strong because of blitz?
kiusasori [2d\]: g3 h3 g2 h2 f1 h4 
g6 [?\]: worse? what, he'll be loster?
Kernow [3k\]: if b gets half the board, then w gets theother half plus komi and wins
elfking [5k\]: and white is not resigning because? 
Larrave [3k\]: haha kernowXD
kiusasori [2d\]: b can sacrifice f3 without hesitation
longtong [16k?\]: hard for white
]
;B[kq]C[IGoofy [1d\]: even the kids are bored from ws position
chwan [6d\]: The winner will win about $600 cash
Senki [2d\]: isnt it too high i mean white stones
]
;W[kp]C[longtong [16k?\]: what is blitz anyway?
evanj [2d\]: blitz = very fast game
Hanne [3k\]: ballroom blitz = very fast dance
]
;B[jq]C[longtong [16k?\]: I see
]
;W[jp]C[Emperor40k [3d\]: isnt the dude in the light grey shirt andy liu?
HandA [1k\]: h3
Katerchen [4k?\]: 8p vs 7d and 8p is black ? Why ?
chwan [6d\]: but some players choose not to play because they have to teach lessons and they earn more from the lessons compared to the winner prize money 
kiusasori [2d\]: h3 
ibd [9k?\]: blitz in the sky = flash
]
;B[lq]C[dimitar [2k\]: 8p good at nigiri
kiusasori [2d\]: because aleas of tournament
Kernow [3k\]: because nigiri i expecrt
DonValley [?\]: cuz they plan 8p to win
elfking [5k\]: Katerchen it's a tournament game
evanj [2d\]: no nigiri
Kernow [3k\]: oho
kent1956 [10k?\]: wish the guty in the black shirt would quite dancing around
DonValley [?\]: i prefer w for these big komi games though
Levino [6k?\]: time please?
kent1956 [10k?\]: there he left....good
danigabi [6d\]: i just read Feng Yun got to pro in 3 years!
evanj [2d\]: tehy are in the open section of the tournament, treated as even for pairings
elfking [5k\]: the placements are worked out at the beginning
USGO1 [-\]: Nigiri for Ing Masters tournament, not U.S. Open
Senki [2d\]: did white resign already?
elfking [5k\]: danigabi: that's sick
]
;W[mq]C[IGoofy [1d\]: normal
dimitar [2k\]: he did at least 13 tsumego per day
kiusasori [2d\]: b goal : have 3 quarters of goban
dimitar [2k\]: read out ALL the ladders
kent1956 [10k?\]: USGO1 who are you? Recorders name?
elfking [5k\]: danigabi: no one should be allowed to go pro in just three years... :P ... that kind of stuff only happens in silly animes about go
mcw85 [7k\]: He?
]
;B[nq]C[Katerchen [4k?\]: oh
evanj [2d\]: man w just keeps digging
kent1956 [10k?\]: Yea, you in the redish shirt.....lol
]
;W[mp]
;B[mr]C[udin: HnG silly u say?
USGO1 [-\]: Max Peterson, Board 1; Matt Luce, Board 2; Solomon Smilack, Board 3; Daniel Poore, Board 4; Chris Burg, Relief. 
chwan [6d\]: I think maybe the Feng Yun 3 years to Pro means she took the PRO exams for 3 years
meuns [2k\]: i love black
kiusasori [2d\]: elfking : that already happened 
]
;W[iq]C[kiusasori [2d\]: h3 
]
;B[kr]C[danigabi [6d\]: the us go cogress page says that it took her 3 years from learing the game to becoming pro
Larrave [3k\]: wow
evanj [2d\]: can that possibly be true?
]
;W[go]C[dimitar [2k\]: empty triangle!
Larrave [3k\]: double empty triangle
]
;B[pq]C[chwan [6d\]: in China, the PROS exams are held once yearly
Larrave [3k\]: only a pro can do this
Katerchen [4k?\]: @Elfking: anime-s ? So far I know only one :)
elfking [5k\]: TWO empty triangles
sensemaker [4d\]: is zhoanian chen darkmage or bbw?
Larrave [3k\]: l2 was like
GoGetta [-\]: h5 
dimitar [2k\]: one is a tigers mouth
sensemaker [4d\]: always got confused
Larrave [3k\]: "come on  resign"
meuns [2k\]: w is leading ? :'(
Prodigious [5d?\]: darkmage
Phear [-\]: what is the time on the clocks?
DonValley [?\]: w is dead
Emperor40k [3d\]: beware the chtonian chen
mcw85 [7k\]: Zchen
kiusasori [2d\]: g14 and j11 are dead
ParrotHead [4k\]: darkmage and zchen  both accounts are his
GoGetta [-\]: SE sayings white can still win
kent1956 [10k?\]: w g3
elfking [5k\]: let's be certain... while one empty triangle in an amature's hand (with the exception of chid0ri) is an ugly thing, two cancel each other's ugliness out and create beautiful half eyes 
norg [3k\]: Zcehn vs Tartrate = :D
danigabi [6d\]: well n16 was a big capture but
danigabi [6d\]: black has a nice ceter..
DonValley [?\]: SE says b is up by 11, even though its not true
DonValley [?\]: 11 is a lot
DonValley [?\]: to make up at this stage
Kernow [3k\]: b has a nice everything!
Larrave [3k\]: whos tartrate
mcw85 [7k\]: Zchen versus Myung-wan Kim
DonValley [?\]: unless w is an endgame genius
Kernow [3k\]: ZChen outclassed. but he will bounce back
USGO1 [-\]: Chen has 56 minutes left on clock
drauglir [2d\]: q7 now?
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't know who tarrate is.
USGO1 [-\]: Kim has 59
Levino [6k?\]: thx
Phear [-\]: thank you for the update UGO1 :)
]
;W[jj]C[evanj [2d\]: mcw: i alyways assumed you were tartrate
]
;B[kk]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Shh!
]
;W[jk]
;B[kl]C[fairgo1 [1k\]: Is there video for the other boards?
Larrave [3k\]: pro gonna punish it
]
;W[jl]
;B[km]C[evanj [2d\]: no fairgo
IGoofy [1d\]: if k9 ecapes the ystem will deal with it
kent1956 [10k?\]: dancer in black shirt back
ibd [9k?\]: p10
USGO1 [-\]: Only one camera
elfking [5k\]: wow
USGO1 [-\]: Observer is Yixian Zhou
elfking [5k\]: that's a masacre
kent1956 [10k?\]: dancer should go to restroom....lol
Kernow [3k\]: so, you guys can see them?
elfking [5k\]: k7 k6 j7 h7 j8 h8 j9  poor black 
kent1956 [10k?\]: yes
Kernow [3k\]: wow, KGS plus must be really cool
Kernow [3k\]: all i can see is the board
Larrave [3k\]: no
Senki [2d\]: Myung-Wan is korean right?
Kernow [3k\]: yes
Larrave [3k\]: its just some nice guys who are doing this
jszmajda [?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euroghttp://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustestotv-ustest
Kernow [3k\]: lives in america now
Larrave [3k\]: no +
danigabi [6d\]: R8 last remaining big point?
jszmajda [?\]: whoops, double paste
GoGetta [-\]: Who is yixian zhou?
mcw85 [7k\]: Finnish female, not korean.
DonValley [?\]: missbear on kgs?
kent1956 [10k?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv-ustest for video
Kernow [3k\]: thansk
sensemaker [4d\]: hmm black won right?
kent1956 [10k?\]: h7
DonValley [?\]: mhm
]
;W[im]C[norg [3k\]: SE thinks w won, so yeah...
fairgo1 [1k\]: andy liu i watching :O
]
;B[hn]C[fairgo1 [1k\]: is*
kent1956 [10k?\]: ok j7 works too
elfking [5k\]: lol norg
Larrave [3k\]: pro gonna kill it all
taroishiko [13k?\]: beautiful
Shojo [3k\]: he's there? fair
fairgo1 [1k\]: look at the video...
IGoofy [1d\]: hoping for the best but  expecting the worst
elfking [5k\]: errr
Hanne [3k\]: kent1959, options --> rules --> participants
danigabi [6d\]: wow
danigabi [6d\]: excellent move
eq [1d\]: are you gonna drop the bomb or not?
danigabi [6d\]: finishing blow
meuns [2k\]: maybe black is too strong
sensemaker [4d\]: 7d really doesnt stand a chance against 8p
elfking [5k\]: is black going for a massive I'll kill everything in sight that's white?
freddygo [5k\]: why is this pro so aggressive?
kent1956 [10k?\]: hanne ? what?
DonValley [?\]: cuz hes pro
IGoofy [1d\]: forever dead
evanj [2d\]: nice move
longtong [16k?\]: this congress game starts everyday at what time??
mcw85 [7k\]: Korean.
xiexieni [4d\]: he probably wants to win
sensemaker [4d\]: i doubt so
Hanne [3k\]: kent1956, u asked for transcriber's name
meuns [2k\]: i love this pro
Emperor40k [3d\]: at least w can defend at L6
Leitbur [5k\]: it might be his style, if you look at pro korean games many of them play quite aggressively
freddygo [5k\]: i thought he would go easier on amateurs, just play enough to win
Larrave [3k\]: he wants some cash
kent1956 [10k?\]: Hanne he gave it, thanks
USGO8 [-\]: The US Open takes place at 9am eastern time
DonValley [?\]: everything is in igame info
Shojo [3k\]: I don't see Andy =\\
Planets [7k\]: freddygo he's a korean pro 
elfking [5k\]: freddygo that's actually disrespectful of your opponent... 
Bheeshma [4k\]: is o13 a good move?
DonValley [?\]: like transcriber
longtong [16k?\]: erm...hahah eastern time is how many hours ago? i am living in GMT +8 
Renju [-\]: its disrespectful in a tournament, not in a casual game
mcw85 [7k\]: EDT is GMT -5
sensemaker [4d\]: this is probably "going easy" on amateur
Gresil [-\]: this doesn't look like a severe move to me. after w j6 the most he's going to lose is the g5 stone, right?
evanj [2d\]: it's 11:23 AM eastern US time
IGoofy [1d\]: is this the jobless canter ?
Senki [2d\]: this is thirst game played by kim?
elfking [5k\]: freddygo in a tournament all pros give it their best because to underestimate the oppnent (pro or amature) is not respectful... in a teaching game it's something different.
GoGetta [-\]: 11-24
kent1956 [10k?\]: EDT is mostly -4 right now Daylights saving time
Bheeshma [4k\]: guys.. will 013 work?
]
;W[mh]C[mitora [6k\]: I can't see any escape route for white
]
;B[mi]C[mcw85 [7k\]: EST is -4, EDT is -5.
freddygo [5k\]: o13 will work, thats why zchen n12 :)
Gresil [-\]: the f3 stones are't safe, are they?
Kuros [8k\]: gresil keep in mind m4 is dead
freddygo [5k\]: o11
ibd [9k?\]: m4 alive wit g3?
justatry [1k\]: m4 not dead
kent1956 [10k?\]: I stand correctied thanks mcw
justatry [1k\]: yet
LedZepplin [2d\]: w dead :O
Kuros [8k\]: depends how white plays doesn't it
evanj [2d\]: if w j6 b just h5
mcw85 [7k\]: Not really corrected, just changed your D to an S.
LedZepplin [2d\]: oops
LedZepplin [2d\]: XD
Larrave [3k\]: the pro is playing quite fast
sensemaker [4d\]: easy reading perhaps
Phear [-\]: that's because easy game
Larrave [3k\]: easy for himXD
sensemaker [4d\]: not fuseki after all
mitora [6k\]: m4 not dead yet, can still connect to E4... but J7 seems dead to me
Leitbur [5k\]: well he also has plenty of time to think during white's moves
Larrave [3k\]: how many would have played h6 in an instant
Larrave [3k\]: XD
]
;W[gn]C[evanj [2d\]: he can't save m4 without sacrificing j7
kiusasori [2d\]: how many times left ?
Kuros [8k\]: yeah
IGoofy [1d\]: b took a break in the bingo hall to have an intellectual challenge
ibd [9k?\]: doesn't j6 connect?
]
;B[hm]C[LedZepplin [2d\]:  is doing kinda well
LedZepplin [2d\]: :O
evanj [2d\]: ibd: j6 h5
danigabi [6d\]: game totally over
Larrave [3k\]: j6 just increases ultimate cash for black
evanj [2d\]: then makes miai of b j5 to cut, or save b stones and kill all in the center and bottom side
Sandalphon [5d\]: So, this may be a dumb question, but where are the NAIM games?
]
;W[mj]C[IGoofy [1d\]: later
evanj [2d\]: ?!
Sandalphon [5d\]: ah okay
Gresil [-\]: j6 h5 j5 h4 g3?
Gresil [-\]: and white survives
evanj [2d\]: g3 h3
mcw85 [7k\]: 6:30
Gresil [-\]: oops
Gresil [-\]: yeah
longtong [16k?\]: or can anyone tell me what time is it over there now and what time it starts over there? hope to be able to catch the games in next few days
mcw85 [7k\]: So, 7 hours.
evanj [2d\]: meanwhile what is this move all about
danigabi [6d\]: nice move
evanj [2d\]: long: it starts in seven hours
USGO1 [-\]: NAIM is in the evening in same room. Starting at 6:30 tonight.
]
;B[kj]C[evanj [2d\]: man i wish i could be at congress
g6 [?\]: Does anyone recognise the guy in the black shirt? Is he also strong?
LedZepplin [2d\]: K7
mcw85 [7k\]: Run for the House, evan.
evanj [2d\]: har
Sandalphon [5d\]: One other question, USGO1 you might know this, but I'm not playing at the congress, what's the policy on swinging by and saying hello?
evanj [2d\]: i am currently aga 3.6 dan, want to study and push that up to 5 or so
ibd [9k?\]: instaban
evanj [2d\]: then we'll see
Yippie [2d\]: j6 is connected right?
USGO1 [-\]: Recorded games are also under USGO#
freddygo [5k\]: k8 dead?
danigabi [6d\]: saying hello to whom?
evanj [2d\]: sandal: you're in DC area?
Sandalphon [5d\]: I'll be back up there tonight
USGO1 [-\]: Coming by and saying hello is perfectly acceptable.
evanj [2d\]: my old stomping grounds
elfking [5k\]: .... g3 h3 h4
]
;W[mn]C[Sandalphon [5d\]: thanks USGO!
jszmajda [?\]: I live in MD, was thinking about stopping by too
]
;B[in]C[jszmajda [?\]: can you watch a lecture without registering for the congress?
evanj [2d\]: i used to play in all the northern virginia tournaments
Larrave [3k\]: white wants to fool the pro
sensemaker [4d\]: black lazy?
evanj [2d\]: b doing what he needs to do to win
OrangeKyo [5k\]: lol some guy is on kgs in the video
]
;W[ni]C[danigabi [6d\]: j6 "ok dude, game over
Leitbur [5k\]: that should just about kill any hope for white
evanj [2d\]: orange: that's the game recorded
longtong [16k?\]: it is 11.30am over there now?
LedZepplin [2d\]: XD
evanj [2d\]: recorder*
fairgo1 [1k\]: was feng yun in the US open too?
evanj [2d\]: yes longtong
Planets [7k\]: lol orange
]
;B[pm]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, 11:30
]
;W[li]
;B[kh]C[Yippie [2d\]: w just lost
Luhmann: so lost
]
;W[gm]C[Luhmann: 100 moves before
LedZepplin [2d\]: :(
ibd [9k?\]: w want semeai?
norg [3k\]: Feng Yun vs Kim would be interesting. She has the higher rank, but he is Tartrate.
evanj [2d\]: no he isn't
]
;B[hl]C[XY0908 [-\]: Not again...
evanj [2d\]: i'm tartrate
sensemaker [4d\]: this myungwan kim is tartrate?
longtong [16k?\]: F6 or G8 is it a good move?
freddygo [5k\]: when is feng yun going to play?
Kuros [8k\]: i'm tartrate
Kernow [3k\]: i'm spartacus
XY0908 [-\]: Please...
Kuros [8k\]: :)
OrangeKyo [5k\]: oh is that USGO1[-\] ?
Luhmann: USO can you ask him pls if he is tartrate???
OrangeKyo [5k\]: loll
evanj [2d\]: yes orange
LedZepplin [2d\]: im meijin touya
Planets [7k\]: *facepalm*
crottmann [8k\]: i am the holy ghost
pewpew [8k\]: did dinerchtein win
Larrave [3k\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
evanj [2d\]: No.
mcw85 [7k\]: Great game, too.
g6 [?\]: a bit
Kernow [3k\]: i'm noone special but the ghost of a 1000 year old go player tells me where to play, so
Fajnymis [3d\]: y + r
ibd [9k?\]: s + t
pewpew [8k\]: is there an sgf anywhere
mcw85 [7k\]: TEXT MESSAGE
]
;W[qm]C[evanj [2d\]: haha
Hanne [3k\]: hello world
evanj [2d\]: come on, w, resign, i have stuff to do :D
esko [1k\]: w uses boringsuji
Luhmann: lol
ibd [9k?\]: it's very effective
Senki [2d\]: is there other pro which plays in this tournament (besides dienerstein)?
cbc1: good lord, shush!
]
;B[pa]C[DuiBuQi: Tartarate is still as good as ever :/
]
;W[oa]
;B[gl]C[evanj [2d\]: w is playing out yose??
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
sensemaker [4d\]: i thought dinerchtein game was just broadcasted by EurogoTV
sensemaker [4d\]: he play both in eurogo and usgo?
longtong [16k?\]: w should give up G9?
XY0908 [-\]: Is EuroGoTV showing other boards than this one?
fairgo1 [1k\]: umm no
fairgo1 [1k\]: >.<
Luhmann: g9 not the problem lol
Chilltime [2k\]: euro go tv is broadcasting european conevention
Chilltime [2k\]: not the us one
kiddai [7k\]: k9 is the problem
Sebastian [2k\]: game already over?
Chilltime [2k\]: and dinerchtein plays egc
Hanne [3k\]: q19 tenuki great
danigabi [6d\]: i dont get Q19
Chilltime [2k\]: this is ugc if u like that
Kyuss [1k\]: dinerchein's is playing at the ECG, sensemaker
Meepy [-\]: black takes a nice double sente move
danigabi [6d\]: why q19 and not P19?
IGoofy [1d\]: europe and america are diferent cities
Senki [2d\]: ohh this is usgo ^^ not eurogotv
Arhiman [3k\]: you tell us, danigabi :)
evanj [2d\]: the guy in the black shirt ought to stop playing with his phone
XY0908 [-\]: Chill, I am now watching EuroGoTV on this board.
danigabi [6d\]: i dont know p19 was also sete
Senki [2d\]: europe and america cities... :)
danigabi [6d\]: its obviously bigger
Luhmann: the guy twitters allready w has lost
DonValley [?\]: did the game end yet? i jhust left for a while
evanj [2d\]: depends what you mean by "end"
DonValley [?\]: resign
evanj [2d\]: they are still playing, yes
DonValley [?\]: wow
evanj [2d\]: does w have a chance, not really
DuiBuQi: White tried so hard and got so far...
Sandalphon [5d\]: The lights are still on, but there's no more coal
Kernow [3k\]: but int he end
Arhiman [3k\]: maybe p19 was demanding Kim to move too much so...
longtong [16k?\]: what is the use of Q19?
USGO1 [-\]: White has 42 minutes, black 55. 
DuiBuQi: it didn't even matter
Luhmann: both have 30 sec
Kyuss [1k\]: isnt b ahead?
evanj [2d\]: what song is that? it sounds familiar
norg [3k\]: I set about that much time to play a whole game :S
Sebastian [2k\]: has w given up?
YeongHaKo [?\]: linkin park
Sandalphon [5d\]: Which song?
Syanide32 [5k\]: don did you "wow" because of the passing spectator?
evanj [2d\]: oh yeah
Divide [4k?\]: In the End by Linkin park
Arhiman [3k\]: Kim looks like bored
Senki [2d\]: dedication for chen ^^
IGoofy [1d\]: this is the end
Luhmann: exactly 30 seconds^^^
USGO1 [-\]: White has resigned.
huggy [3k\]: nd of sad that w doesn't resign
evanj [2d\]: done
AoX [11k\]: finally
Luhmann: thx USGO!!!
Syanide32 [5k\]: seconded, than max
Bheeshma [4k\]: B+R?
Syanide32 [5k\]: *thanks
kent1956 [10k?\]: Thanks for the recording
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks, USGO1.
LedZepplin [2d\]: w resigned
Kyuss [1k\]: l18 looks like sente
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome. Thanks for watching.
jszmajda [?\]: yes, thank you :)
Kyuss [1k\]: oh
Kyuss [1k\]: :P
Kyuss [1k\]: thanks USGO
JaslierSan [9k\]: gg Black
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  8p is strong
LedZepplin [2d\]: thx usgo
USGO1 [-\]: North American Ing Masters tonight at 6:30 pm EST
jszmajda [?\]: video then too?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: ok  thx USGO
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